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Tue, 28 Jul 2015 A few months ago I wrote an article here called an ounce of theory is worth a pound of search and I have a nice followup. When I went looking for that article I couldn't find it, because I thought it was about how an ounce of search is worth a pound of theory, and that I was writing a counterexample. I am quite surprised to discover that that I have several times discussed how a little theory can replace a lot of searching, and not vice versa, but perhaps that is because the search is my default. Anyway, the question came up on math StackExchange today:
OP opined no, but had no argument. The first answer that appeared was somewhat elaborate and outlined a computer search strategy which claimed to reduce the search space to only 14,553 items. (I think the analysis is wrong, but I agree that the search space is not too large.) I almost wrote the search program. I have a program around that is something like what would be needed, although it is optimized to deal with a few oddly-shaped tiles instead of many similar tiles, and would need some work. Fortunately, I paused to think a little before diving in to the programming. For there is an easy answer. Suppose John solved the problem. Look at just one of the 7×11 faces of the big box. It is a 7×11 rectangle that is completely filled by 1×3 and 3×3 rectangles. But 7×11 is not a multiple of 3. So there can be no solution. Now how did I think of this? It was a very geometric line of reasoning. I imagined a 7×11×9 carton and imagined putting the small boxes into the carton. There can be no leftover space; every one of the 693 cells must be filled. So in particular, we must fill up the bottom 7×11 layer. I started considering how to pack the bottommost 7×11×1 slice with just the bottom parts of the small boxes and quickly realized it couldn't be done; there is always an empty cell left over somewhere, usually in the corner. The argument about considering just one face of the large box came later; I decided it was clearer than what I actually came up with. I think this is a nice example of the Pólya strategy “solve a simpler problem” from How to Solve It, but I was not thinking of that specifically when I came up with the solution. For a more interesting problem of the same sort, suppose you have six 2×2x1 slabs and three extra 1×1×1 cubes. Can you pack the nine pieces into a 3×3x3 box? [Other articles in category /math] permanent link Thu, 23 Jul 2015
Mystery of the misaligned lowercase ‘p’
I've seen this ad on the subway at least a hundred times, but I never noticed this oddity before: Specifically, check out the vertical alignment of those ‘p’s: Notice that it is not simply an unusual font. The height of the ‘p’ matches the other lowercase letters exactly. Here's how it ought to look: At first I thought the designer was going for a playful, informal logotype. Some of the other lawyers who advertise in the subway go for a playful, informal look. But it seemed odd in the context of the rest of the sign. As I wondered what happened here, a whole story unfolded in my mind. Here's how I imagine it went down:
I have no real reason to believe that most of this is true, but I find it all so very plausible. [ Addendum: Noted typographic expert Jonathan Hoefler says “I'm certain you are correct.” ] [Other articles in category /IT/typo] permanent link Sat, 18 Jul 2015[ Notice: I originally published this report at the wrong URL. I moved it so that I could publish the June 2015 report at that URL instead. If you're seeing this for the second time, you might want to read the June article instead. ] A lot of the stuff I've written in the past couple of years has been on Mathematics StackExchange. Some of it is pretty mundane, but some is interesting. I thought I might have a little meta-discussion in the blog and see how that goes. These are the noteworthy posts I made in April 2015.
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The annoying boxes puzzle: solution
There are two boxes on a table, one red and one green. One contains a treasure. The red box is labelled "exactly one of the labels is true". The green box is labelled "the treasure is in this box."It's not too late to try to solve this before reading on. If you want, you can submit your answer here:
Results
66.52% 300 red 25.72 116 not-enough-info 3.55 16 green 2.00 9 other 1.55 7 spam 0.44 2 red-with-qualification 0.22 1 attack 100.00 451 TOTAL One-quarter of respondents got
the right answer, that there is not enough information
given to solve the problem, Two-thirds of respondents said the
treasure was in the red box.
This is wrong. The treasure
is in the green box.
What?Let me show you. I stated:
The labels are as I said. Everything I told you was literally true. The treasure is definitely not in the red box. No, it is actually in the green box. (It's hard to see, but one of the items in the green box is the gold and diamond ring made in Vienna by my great-grandfather, which is unquestionably a real treasure.) So if you said the treasure must be in the red box, you were simply mistaken. If you had a logical argument why the treasure had to be in the red box, your argument was fallacious, and you should pause and try to figure out what was wrong with it. I will discuss it in detail below.
SolutionThe treasure is undeniably in the green box. However, correct answer to the puzzle is "no, you cannot figure out which box contains the treasure". There is not enough information given. (Notice that the question was not “Where is the treasure?” but “Can you figure out…?”)
(Fallacious) Argument AMany people erroneously conclude that the treasure is in the red box, using reasoning something like the following:
What's wrong with argument A?Here are some responses people commonly have when I tell them that argument A is fallacious:
"If the treasure is in the green box, the red label is lying." Not quite, but argument A explicitly considers the possibility that the red label was false, so what's the problem?
"If the treasure is in the green box, the red label is inconsistent." It could be. Nothing in the puzzle statement ruled this out. But actually it's not inconsistent, it's just irrelevant.
"If the treasure is in the green box, the red label is meaningless." Nonsense. The meaning is plain: it says “exactly one of these labels is true”, and the meaning is that exactly one of the labels is true. Anyone presenting argument A must have understood the label to mean that, and it is incoherent to understand it that way and then to turn around and say that it is meaningless! (I discussed this point in more detail in 2007.)
"But the treasure could have been in the red box." True! But it is not, as you can see in the pictures. The puzzle does not give enough information to solve the problem. If you said that there was not enough information, then congratulations, you have the right answer. The answer produced by argument A is incontestably wrong, since it asserts that the treasure is in the red box, when it is not.
"The conditions supplied by the puzzle statement are inconsistent." They certainly are not. Inconsistent systems do not have models, and in particular cannot exist in the real world. The photographs above demonstrate a real-world model that satisfies every condition posed by the puzzle, and so proves that it is consistent.
"But that's not fair! You could have made up any random garbage at all, and then told me afterwards that you had been lying." Had I done that, it would have been an unfair puzzle. For example, suppose I opened the boxes at the end to reveal that there was no treasure at all. That would have directly contradicted my assertion that "One [box] contains a treasure". That would have been cheating, and I would deserve a kick in the ass.But I did not do that. As the photograph shows, the boxes, their colors, their labels, and the disposition of the treasure are all exactly as I said. I did not make up a lie to trick you; I described a real situation, and asked whether people they could diagnose the location of the treasure. (Two respondents accused me of making up lies. One said: There is no treasure. Both labels are lying. Look at those boxes. Do you really think someone put a treasure in one of them just for this logic puzzle?What can I say? I did put a treasure in a box just for this logic puzzle. Some of us just have higher standards.)
"But what about the labels?" Indeed! What about the labels?
The labels are worthlessThe labels are red herrings; the provide no information. Consider the following version of the puzzle:
There are two boxes on a table, one red and one green. One contains a treasure.Obviously, the problem cannot be solved from the information given. Now consider this version:
There are two boxes on a table, one red and one green. One contains a treasure. The red box is labelled "gcoadd atniy fnck z fbi c rirpx hrfyrom". The green box is labelled "ofurb rz bzbsgtuuocxl ckddwdfiwzjwe ydtd."One is similarly at a loss here. (By the way, people who said one label was meaningless: this is what a meaningless label looks like.)
There are two boxes on a table, one red and one green. One contains a treasure. The red box is labelled "exactly one of the labels is true". The green box is labelled "the treasure is in this box."The point being that in the absence of additional information, there is no reason to believe that the labels give any information about the contents of the boxes, or about labels, or about anything at all. This should not come as a surprise to anyone. It is true not just in annoying puzzles, but in the world in general. A box labeled “fresh figs” might contain fresh figs, or spoiled figs, or angry hornets, or nothing at all. Why doesn't every logic puzzle fall afoul of this problem?I said as part of the puzzle conditions that there was a treasure in one box. For a fair puzzle, I am required to tell the truth about the puzzle conditions. Otherwise I'm just being a jerk.Typically the truth or falsity of the labels is part of the puzzle conditions. Here's a typical example, which I took from Raymond Smullyan's What is the name of this book? (problem 67a):
… She had the following inscriptions put on the caskets:Notice that the problem condition gives the suitor a certification about the truth of the labels, on which he may rely. In the quotation above, the certification is in boldface. A well-constructed puzzle will always contain such a certification, something like “one label is true and one is false” or “on this island, each person always lies, or always tells the truth”. I went to What is the Name of this Book? to get the example above, and found more than I had bargained for: problem 70 is exactly the annoying boxes problem! Smullyan says:
Good heavens, I can take any number of caskets that I please and put an object in one of them and then write any inscriptions at all on the lids; these sentences won't convey any information whatsoever.(Page 65) Had I known ahead of time that Smullyan had treated the exact same topic with the exact same example, I doubt I would have written this post at all.
But why is this so surprising?I don't know.
Final notes16 people correctly said that the treasure was in the green box. This has to be counted as a lucky guess, unacceptable as a solution to a logic puzzle.One respondent referred me to a similar post on lesswrong. I did warn you all that the puzzle was annoying. I started writing this post in October 2007, and then it sat on the shelf until I got around to finding and photographing the boxes. A triumph of procrastination!
Addendum 2015091Steven Mazie has written a blog article about this topic, A Logic Puzzle That Teaches a Life Lesson.
Addendum 20240628It seems that the Lesswrongers call this The Parable of the Dagger. Here's their version of the payoff:
The jester opened the second box, and found a dagger. [Other articles in category /math/logic] permanent link Wed, 01 Jul 2015
The annoying boxes puzzle
There are two boxes on a table, one red and one green. One contains a treasure. The red box is labelled "exactly one of the labels is true". The green box is labelled "the treasure is in this box."Starting on 2015-07-03, the solution will be here.
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